Canada Jim
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Andy, Is there a difference between "sampling" and "plagiarism"? Is plagiarism OK for this season?
Season 571 - Sampler Platter
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As long as this Season has gone completely "Out-of-it-there" how about Junior Samples:
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I’m not really sure what you mean by plagiarism in this sense, so I’ll just say it’s probably shades of gray Jim. Try to stick to songs that were sampled with attribution or some other credit given to the sampled artist by the sampling artist. If you can find an example of someone a riff, a bass line, a percussion track, etc., lifted from Song A and used by another artist in their Song B and not giving attribution to the original artist then I think that would qualify.
A sample should be a bit of recorded music from a song used intentionally by another artist as an integral part of a new, original song. I encourage everyone to listen to some of the examples in the OP, or to find some examples from the website Val and I posted or that was shared by Christopher.
wee_ginga_yin
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Richard Peek is a self-confessed wrench turner, banjo player, road warrior, and slam poet, who wrote the most wonderful poem called "When cars have fins" that has that Kerouac "0n the road" stream of consciousness feel to it.
The words just rumbled out of him like a V8 firing on 7 cylinders, and in my head very faintly I heard a distorted guitar, a whup-ass bass and snare drum backbeat barking like a broken exhaust... so I put together a tribute to the man who uses a piece of wire and an alligator clip for a belt.
Tweaked Midi sample of "Spirit in the Sky" complete with poem patched in at appropriate moments, and the man himself driving his rat rod with a piston rod as a gear stick.
The words just rumbled out of him like a V8 firing on 7 cylinders, and in my head very faintly I heard a distorted guitar, a whup-ass bass and snare drum backbeat barking like a broken exhaust... so I put together a tribute to the man who uses a piece of wire and an alligator clip for a belt.
Tweaked Midi sample of "Spirit in the Sky" complete with poem patched in at appropriate moments, and the man himself driving his rat rod with a piston rod as a gear stick.
One Man And His Uke
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Love this theme Andy, I have a lot of time for Hip Hop ( although obviously it’s not the only musical genre to use sampling), and I think if a sample is used creatively it becomes it’s own art form. Sure it’s using something that someone has already created, but so long as the original is credited, I’m a fan frankly. I also like that a song can lead you back to the original. I came to this song via “No Diggety”, by Blackstreet and Dr Dre. I dont think I will be able to even try to cover “No Diggety” this week, but here is the original by the wonderful talented Bill Withers. This was inspired by his maternal grandmother I believe, the Mattie in the lyrics who is about to spank our hero for dropping an apple core ( what!!!!!!!) was Bill Withers’ mum.
One Man And His Uke
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Whoops, sorry Andy, I realise I should be playing the song that sampled the song! My own stoopid fault for not reading your intro post properly! 
Double whoops! No, I think I read it right, you want to hear the song that was sampled. As you were
Incidentally, re Jim’s query about Plagiarism, I hope that someday we can live in a world without plagiarism.
You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one………
Double whoops! No, I think I read it right, you want to hear the song that was sampled. As you were
Incidentally, re Jim’s query about Plagiarism, I hope that someday we can live in a world without plagiarism.
You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one………
I love A Tribe Called Quest.
Liz Brinker brought a superb cover of their "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo" for the Bag week, which I thoroughly enjoyed.
ATCQ has sampled lots of people's songs. Their song "Can I Kick It ?" sampled Lou Reed's Walk On The Wild Side, and a few other songs. Check it out if you haven't. They are great fun.
Here is my cover of Lou's Walk On The Wild Side, impromptu as always straight to the mic, just me and the concert uke. Fingers got retarded at some point, dunno why, but I not gonna do it again. I did add harmonies over though. With a few drawings and paintings I made some years ago. The images are not so pretty so don't watch it if you want pretty.
Thanks for hosting, Andy.
Liz Brinker brought a superb cover of their "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo" for the Bag week, which I thoroughly enjoyed.
ATCQ has sampled lots of people's songs. Their song "Can I Kick It ?" sampled Lou Reed's Walk On The Wild Side, and a few other songs. Check it out if you haven't. They are great fun.
Here is my cover of Lou's Walk On The Wild Side, impromptu as always straight to the mic, just me and the concert uke. Fingers got retarded at some point, dunno why, but I not gonna do it again. I did add harmonies over though. With a few drawings and paintings I made some years ago. The images are not so pretty so don't watch it if you want pretty.
Thanks for hosting, Andy.
Canada Jim
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If You Could Read My Mind - Gordon Lightfoot.
Gord first heard Michael Masser's song The Greatest Love Of All sung by Whitney Houston on his gym's sound system and noticed that 24 bars of the song were identical to his song If You Could Read My Mind. He started to go after Masser legally, but realised that it might affect Whitney Houston's career negatively, so he dropped the suit.
Gord first heard Michael Masser's song The Greatest Love Of All sung by Whitney Houston on his gym's sound system and noticed that 24 bars of the song were identical to his song If You Could Read My Mind. He started to go after Masser legally, but realised that it might affect Whitney Houston's career negatively, so he dropped the suit.
It is the second day of the Lunar New Year.
It was nice to see that Joko remembered and posted a cute poster on the yakking thread.
I don't like the noisy celebrations, though.
But I want to take the opportunity to make a little video.
It features a simple picture book I made about my father...well, not really about him but more a sort of understanding that only nature and love could and would "transform" him (when he was very sick), and anyone of us.
He died in 2021.
I feel grateful I can speak Teochew, a Chinese dialect that my parents and grandparents spoke to me when I was a child. Many young Teochew people don't know the language anymore, not even Mandarin.
I sang this simple song in Teochew and played chords C, F, G on the bari uke, tuned C, G, B, D.
I am grateful to Edwin for gifting me the Alternative Tunings book.
"If you want to write an original please do! Use the idea of seeing something old through a new lens or with a new sense of appreciation as a starting point."
there's a hole in his heart,
and there's a worm
in the hole
in his heart.
I became a bird,
to
love
you.
I became a flower.
I love you.
It was nice to see that Joko remembered and posted a cute poster on the yakking thread.
I don't like the noisy celebrations, though.
But I want to take the opportunity to make a little video.
It features a simple picture book I made about my father...well, not really about him but more a sort of understanding that only nature and love could and would "transform" him (when he was very sick), and anyone of us.
He died in 2021.
I feel grateful I can speak Teochew, a Chinese dialect that my parents and grandparents spoke to me when I was a child. Many young Teochew people don't know the language anymore, not even Mandarin.
I sang this simple song in Teochew and played chords C, F, G on the bari uke, tuned C, G, B, D.
I am grateful to Edwin for gifting me the Alternative Tunings book.
"If you want to write an original please do! Use the idea of seeing something old through a new lens or with a new sense of appreciation as a starting point."
there's a hole in his heart,
and there's a worm
in the hole
in his heart.
I became a bird,
to
love
you.
I became a flower.
I love you.
bird's eye view of my ukelele
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the beastie boys sampled a distinctive drum snippet from donovan's "hurdy gurdy man", for their song "car thief". (they also sing the phrase "hurdy gurdy man" just as the drum sample kicks in.)
here's my uke cover of donovan's source song, "hurdy gurdy man"...
here's my uke cover of donovan's source song, "hurdy gurdy man"...
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Thanks all for a fun first two days. The Playlist should be up to date to here. I look forward to hearing what you are all able to dig up.
wee_ginga_yin
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The blues is often playing repetitive chords and repetitive lyrics, but the knack is to sing a slightly different melody over the same chords. This song was recorded in 1964 by Vera Hall
and sampled by Moby for his song Natural Blues.
I have also taken natural blues Midi file tweaked the tracks and taken a sample of Martin Luther King speeches and Robert Burns poem.
and sampled by Moby for his song Natural Blues.
I have also taken natural blues Midi file tweaked the tracks and taken a sample of Martin Luther King speeches and Robert Burns poem.
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Cheers for hosting Andy. Junkie XL (JXL) electronically re-worked this Elvis song and sampled the original artist so not sure where the fine line between re-mix and sample lies so I'll sling this one out to ya anyways............
One Man And His Uke
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Andrea True was at one time an actress in pornographic films, but later she chose to follow a career as a singer. “More, More, More” was a hit in 1976, and is to my mind, a classic of the Disco era, and I’ve always loved it. Part of the instrumental break in the middle was sampled by the Canadian band Len and used in their 1999 hit “Steal My Sunshine”. I love that too.
Here's one by The Human League which I had on my to-do list anyway, and of course, it's been sampled. Several times in fact, most notably by Richard X and Kelis on "Finest Dreams". But as is often the case, they sampled the instrumental fill. So in case any hot-shot R&B producers are out there looking for source material, I whistled that bit.
P.S. the unusual background is the view from our holiday cottage for the week, on the Northumberland coast - we face inland.
P.S. the unusual background is the view from our holiday cottage for the week, on the Northumberland coast - we face inland.
merlin666
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Not sure if I get this. So if I search for a song and it was sampled many times, am I supposed to cover the song or one of the pieces that sampled the song?
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Hello, Andy ... and thanks for hosting! Once I worked out what you wanted - "sampling" is a completely alien concept to me - then I realised that there is a lot of choice when it comes to the originals used. This one is from 1965 and the details are on YouTube. I used a newly acquired "KazooJon" for the percussion here. (This has nothing to do with an esteemed member of this community, but is, in fact, a mini, hand-held Cajon/Kazoo ... made in Germany.)
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I have taken it - and I think everyone else has - that it is the original song which is to be performed, Merlin!
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Hey, Andy!
Cheers for hosting! I've (as always!) been struggling for time and I was worried someone might get in before me with this one.
Edith joins me on Bob Dorough's 1973 mathematical classic famously and brilliantly sampled by De La Soul on their 1989 classic, The Magic Number.
It was the De La Soul song that lead me to discover the original through the sample and I couldn't tell you now which I like best. I love 'em both! Although the De La version is definitely better for throwing shapes...
Cheers for hosting! I've (as always!) been struggling for time and I was worried someone might get in before me with this one.
Edith joins me on Bob Dorough's 1973 mathematical classic famously and brilliantly sampled by De La Soul on their 1989 classic, The Magic Number.
It was the De La Soul song that lead me to discover the original through the sample and I couldn't tell you now which I like best. I love 'em both! Although the De La version is definitely better for throwing shapes...
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